Gene and Geneva catch up on the ongoing UFO saga with Canada's premier investigator, Chris Rutkowski, who has been investigating UFO phenomena since the 1970s. The discussion covered Rutkowski's research findings, including his work with the Canadian UFO Survey and his personal experiences meeting Dr. J. Allen Hynek. The conversation explored various UFO cases, including physical evidence like the Falcon Lake case from 1967, as well as more mysterious encounters involving entities and cattle mutilations. The discussion also touched on the challenges of distinguishing between physical phenomena and psychological experiences in UFO reports, and considered the possibility of extraterrestrial life while acknowledging the lack of definitive proof. He has ten published books on UFOs and related issues, including Unnatural History (1993), Abductions and Aliens (1999), A World of UFOs (2008), the children’s book I Saw It Too! (2009), The Big Book of UFOs (2010), When They Appeared (2017) (co-authored with Stan Michalak), and Canada’s UFOs: Declassified (2021) details remarkable UFO cases investigated by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the Royal Canadian Air Force, and the National Research Council of Canada. His book Canada’s UFO Secrets (2026) examines how the Canadian government has viewed UAP over the decades. Rutkowski blogs about UFOs and related issues at: Ufology Research and he oversees an annual study of UFO reports in Canada at: Canadian UFO ReportBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-paracast-the-gold-standard-of-paranormal-radio--6203433/support.